Thursday, January 5, 2012

An Agnostic Plea for Compassion

I spent over 10 years as an evolution-accepting evangelical Christian, albeit a rather confused one.  However, layer upon layer of complexity was added to my faith as I began to look into OT historicity last year. The final bombshell was the realization of the claims of some modern biblical scholars about the NT. My faith was dismantled, and while evolution was not the direct cause, it certainly set me on the path to deconstruction.  

As Paul states recently on his blog, Disoriented Theology:
"It’s one thing to reject the historicity of passages I don’t much like – the flood, the genocides, the Old Testament view of a bloodthirsty, vengeful God – but it’s quite another to find that New Testament passages suffer from the same problems. Maybe they don’t, but I suspect some of them do (certainly the authorship questions are just as muddled as they are in the older scriptures)."

What NT problems?  Here is just a sampling listed by episcopal minister J. S. Spong (H/T Paul):
"Are the gospels then capable of being effective guides to history? If we line up the gospels in the time sequence in which they were written – that is, with Mark first, followed by Matthew, then by Luke and ending with John – we can see exactly how the story expanded between the years 70 and 100.

For example, miracles do not get attached to the memory of Jesus story until the eighth decade. The miraculous birth of Jesus is a ninth-decade addition; the story of Jesus ascending into heaven is a 10th-decade narrative.

In the first gospel, Mark, the risen Christ appears physically to no one, but by the time we come to the last gospel, John, Thomas is invited to feel the nail prints in Christ’s hands and feet and the spear wound in his side.

Perhaps the most telling witness against the claim of accurate history for the Bible comes when we read the earliest narrative of the crucifixion found in Mark’s gospel and discover that it is not based on eyewitness testimony at all..."


Questions such as these has enveloped Christianity in a mist of confusion for me.  The central theme of Christianity -- the resurrection -- has lost its essence, and I cannot genuinely call myself an orthodox Christian. Now, when I read this excerpt from the Biologos site, I feel like another bombshell has been dropped upon me:
"Now let's turn to category (2), the case of a person who has been exposed to Christianity but doesn't believe it because they claim not to have enough evidence. I think there are several different possible things that might be going on here:

First of all, just because they claim to be seeking the truth doesn't mean they really are:

(A) They might actually have enough evidence to believe in God, but dishonestly refuse to admit it to themselves, because they don't want it to be true. In this case, they are not actually sincere, and have rejected God not because of inadequacy of the evidence, but because of stubborn rebellion. In this case, there is no reason to think that they would accept God even if they did have more evidence. So it is not God's fault that they do not believe. It should be pointed out that many of the people who saw Christ multiply the loaves, heal people, raise the dead etc. nevertheless refused to believe. It is naive to think that if everyone saw miracles, everyone would believe. Rather the people who don't want to believe become more firm in their rejection of God.

(B) Or, although they don't have enough evidence to believe, they choose not to investigate to see whether it is true or not. In this case, it is their own fault that they don't have enough evidence. If people claim to base their decisions on evidence and reason, it is hypocritical if they reject Christianity without carefully considering whether there is sufficient evidence for Christ's Resurrection and other miracles to show that Christianity is true. In particular, it is utterly irrational to insist on seeing a miracle personally in order to believe if there is lots of evidence that other people have seen miracles. People don't refuse to believe in scientific results unless they personally witness the experiments, so long as multiple reliable people say they have done the experiments, that is enough. Why should religion be different?

I never assume that anybody is intellectually dishonest until I have some specific reason to think they are dishonest. But I've talked to enough atheists to know that most of them do fall into categories (A) or (B), at least to some extent. However, I'm sure that there do exist cases in which atheists are sincere. In this case..."


In the end, my loss of faith will always be regarded as a failing on my part.  I am lost, unregenerate, unrepentant and disobedient.  

This is the message coming from evangelical Christians, even evolution-accepting ones.  As I put things into perspective after a year of doubt and despair, Christianity looks cruel -- a form of survival of the fittest where those that struggle to beleive in miracles are the outcasts.

As most of you know by now, while agnosticism is the label that best fits me, I actually still yearn for faith. With the impending birth of my third child, I want to believe in a heaven, a God who loves, a Jesus who saves.  But my mind doesn't work that way.

I recently dabbled in mainline Christianity, aiming to foster some sort of Christian identity -- what many evangelicals would shun as cultural Christianity.  But alas, my past inhibits my assimilation into what I interpret as a passionless Christianity under the lens of my evangelical upbringing.

Thankfully, over the last year, I've acquired a thicker skin. It's a necessary adjustment to move on with life, find enjoyment, and rid myself of the doubt-induced despair.  I want to kick myself for even attempting to read blog articles in my 37th week of pregnancy, bloated, nauseous, and expecting labor any minute now (both my children came at 38 weeks).  Have I not learned by now that the blogosphere is just poison for my well-being? People taking up arms to face-less targets, me being one of them.

I hope, that if I've accomplished one thing on my little unknown blog, it is to defy the stereotype Christians give to agnostics. If you are a Christian, I hope that you might better understand our challenges and include compassion in your language towards us.

And so I exit the blogosphere yet again, to try to enjoy life even when a huge part of my identity is gone.  To marvel at the seeming miracle of birth without having an answer for why.

17 comments:

  1. This has always been one of my favorite blogs, and you are certainly one of the most thoughtful of people who are writing out there. I wish you well as you are about to become a mother again.

    Do not feel guilt or failure. I have lost my Christian faith, and I have never felt more alive than I do now. As long as you are approaching these questions that, in my view, nobody can possibly know all the answers to, with the open honesty that you have always shown, I just don't see how that can be called failure. Just like when I used to grade math papers, it is not about the final answer, but how you got that answer that counts.


    Hope to read more from you when you are able. Take care.

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  2. I get so sad when I read things like this. And angry. Sad that people like you and I who experience a daily intellectual and emotional plague because of our "quest" get labeled so easily.

    Angry in that strict standards are only applied to those who disbelieve the thing under discussion. How many Christians have the level of intellectual justification for their belief that is being asked of doubters in their non-belief? As it was suggested to me once, only when one takes a step toward the exit of the Church is one suddenly expected to have a PhD in theology and philosophy. Prior to that, singing songs, raising hands, fellowshipping, and tithing were sufficient.

    Don't feel bad, and I mean that. It's not worth it. My own desire for validity has diminished my inner well-being, and I mean that. I think my insecurity in my level of knowledge and continual looking back over my shoulder to figure out if I've finally read, thought, and tried enough on my quest has born no good fruit.

    In the end, god knows where to find any of us if he exists. Surely he can overcome any dose of self-deception or ignorance of available evidence he wants.

    Personally, I'm going to be trying my hardest (primarily via counseling) to move away from things that encourage me to doubt my efforts, knowledge, etc. It's just not helpful. We can never do enough to satisfy those who are convinced that there is no justifiable position of non-belief.

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  3. Sorry. HENDY. Stupid autocorrect...

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  4. Once again my comment turned into a post of it's own.

    http://gulliblestravelsdma.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/intellectual-d…ust-plain-lazy/

    I find it disingenuous for evangelicals to call others intellectually dishonest or lazy. It makes me angry, too, Hendy.

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  5. Evangelicalism is a strange creature. The way I look at it, having it's roots in fundamentalism, one serious foundational principle it has is to consider certain things *fundamental*. And really, to consider the what they see as truth as fundamental propositionally, regardless of consideration of evidence. Analysis of evidence for or against a belief then becomes an attempt to work all evidence available to fit their pre-conceived conclusion.

    You know all that already, I'm sure. And those traits can be found in other sects of Christianity, and in other belief system's ways of thinking too I'm sure. But with evangelicalism being your own background, and reading blogs like biologos, you're certainly up against those ideas a lot.

    I ultimately find it very frustrating to look at things that way, and really personally have written off evangelicalism entirely because of it. My wife and I are attending an anabaptist church, and while there are elements of belief I certainly don't share, I am regularly surprised at how they go about considering and accepting evidence for beliefs, without needing to cling to presuppositional beliefs. It is refreshing, as well as their emphasis on social justice and care for the needy, things one can support regardless of belief, and which they do not tie to evangelism the way evangelicals insist upon, at least in the group we are visiting.

    Best of wishes for you and your new little one and family! Wishing you a speedy and healthy delivery, and an end to the inconveniences and discomforts of the late third trimester. :^)

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  6. Also meant to say this:

    In regard to:
    "In the end, my loss of faith will always be regarded as a failing on my part. I am lost, unregenerate, unrepentant and disobedient. This is the message coming from evangelical Christians, even evolution-accepting ones."

    Certain Christian feel that way, particularly evangelicals. And certain people will feel that way when a person leaves their "in" group, religious, social, familial, political, or otherwise. But there will be people out there who accept you regardless of your beliefs, and changed beliefs, and respect your opinions. And I'm sure some will be Christians as well.


    And this statement by Hendy is excellent:
    "How many Christians have the level of intellectual justification for their belief that is being asked of doubters in their non-belief?"

    People just do whatever to defend their beliefs.

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  7. @HeIsSailing: Thanks! Glad I ran into you again... just subscribed to your new blog (we chatted back and forth on de-conversion.com)

    @D'Ma: Great post on your blog. I recently chatted with a leader of the Christian community I used to take part in who's extremely well read and knowledgeable and told him that I know I have more in common with him intellectually than most of my Christian friends. At least he and I know how absurdly muddy the waters of apologetics are. We can acknowledge together that in 2000 years (or 1300 since Islam (or even 150 since Mormonism)) the world hasn't converged on the "true" religion yet... that's saying something.

    That's a common bond, despite being on opposite sides of the fence. And I find a comforting sense of understanding there vs. those who I've expressed my doubts to and who just know (without having read a thing) that I can't possibly have found any data actually meriting doubt.

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  8. LikeAChild,
    I'm dismayed that Biologos would have a statement like that, it is discouraging. I know it's a community that in the past you have reached out to for some encouragement and understanding.

    It's not easy living in the muddied waters of agnosticism. Just know I'm out there swimming with you!

    I hope for an imminent and uncomplicated delivery for your sweet baby.

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  9. I wish they would keep Jude 1:22 more in mind when people make comments like that.

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  10. Thanks for another interesting post. Just a couple of thoughts: no one knows for absolute sure - am I sure of that? :) - in consequence the best we can do is apply evidence and reason and go with what seems most likely given what we know. To me the words faith and gullibility are too closely related.

    If a consequence of no God is no Heaven for the elect, another and more vital consequence is no Hell for the vast majority of non - elect. That trade off is OK by me, although of course arguing to consequences is not really a viable approach to truth.

    If there be a good and wonderful God, then the Bible writers and the Sunday preachers have got it wrong (credit to Ingersoll). A good and wonderful God wouldn't be the petulant tyrant demanding worship and adoration and tithes as depicted in the Bible. If you are a good person you have nothing to fear from a good God. This, of course, is subject to the qualification of my very first sentence.

    I have said these things not to be selling my point of view, which of course they do express, but to try to provide considerations which may ease the discomfort involved in leaving a thoroughly ingrained way of thinking.

    It is always very good to read your very human and real posts. I, with the others, wish you all the best in the way of the life affirming event now so close upon you.

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  11. Like a Child,

    I am sorry the asinine article at Biologos held any sway for you. I love the two categories: “1. Those who haven’t got enough evidence yet” and “2. Those who have enough and don’t believe because of rebellion.” Talk about poisoning the well.

    Couldn’t possibly be “3. Those who have the evidence but aren’t convinced.”

    Whatever your routes take you, I wanted you to know I greatly appreciate people like you. You have meant a great deal to me.

    The internet can be a cruel task-master. I post and blog and fight, and it seems…at times…there are only two people who read what I write. Those who agree with me and those who do not. Yet the person I am interested in communicating to are those who don’t know yet. The very people who so rarely comment, and therefore I equally don’t know exist.

    It is often with great astonishment when people like you (and DoOrDoNot or D’Ma) comment and I discover there ARE occasional lurkers that…in some very small way…I can provide some knowledge.

    I appreciate your honesty in NOT switching to the darkside. *grin* I understand the battle to maintain theism, avoid fundamental atheism, and retain sanity while changing diapers and making an occasional meal.

    So…whatever you do. Whether you post again tomorrow, next year or never again, I do want to say this.

    Thank you. For being exactly who you are at every moment that you are.

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  12. Dear LAC,

    You touch my heart. Thank you for sharing here on your blog your journey, the good and the bad of all of it.

    I came back to your blog to check in on your Lilypie Ticker. :-)

    With compassion,
    ... Zoe ~

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  13. LaC, I have nothing to add but just want you to know you have my support. Agnosticism is a tough place to live.

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  14. I just came across this blog out of pure 'luck'?!? Thank you so much for your poignant post. Your writing is almost exactly what I have been struggling with. Thank you for being so candid.

    Christianity and evangelical apologetics has been troubling me lately, as well as what constitutes fellowship and church in north america. The sad thing is, that I feel such guilt in leaving because of the culture I was brought up in, not because I fear Hell, but because the first question a person asks you after they meet you is "where do you go to church?" (In other words, it is cultural).

    I will keep reading. Thank you for the thoughtful comments from the Biologos site.

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  15. ((LAC))

    He has overlooked to post C and D, the words of Jesus Christ. "Judge not that ye be not judged," or humans can only discern by outward appearance, but it's God who knows the heart.

    Prayers that you will find peace in all this. The last trimester of pregnancy is a very difficult time. Wishing you joy, and an easy delivery, LAC.

    I do want to share LAC that there are more than a few orthodox scholars who have addressed these various questions and challenges raised by Jack Spong. He is actually a former bishop of the Episcopal church. All of these scholars both more conservative or progressive have certain cognitive bias that impacts how they take hold of the text of Scripture. I don't think any of them can have the last word. Bishop Spong has huge issues with anything literal..to put it mildly. I can tell you that. :)

    But, after the baby, if you're feeling up to it and interested, LAC, please feel free to e-mail. I'm more than happy to provide some references to explore this from the perspective of orthodox scholarship.

    I want to add that all knowledge without love is worse than nothing. God help us all to remember.

    Sincerely,
    Rebecca.

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  16. I've heard basically the same thing said at John Polkinghorne's site as what was said at the BioLogos site. Those who can't believe are just wanting to "sin".

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